Vickers machine gun

**mklotz** · Sep 17, 2022, 08:50 AM

Saw this over on HMEM. It's well done and it is a tool of sorts...

**WmRMeyers** · Sep 17, 2022, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by mklotz

Saw this over on HMEM. It's well done and it is a tool of sorts...

Whoever did this didn't realize that the firing pin does not puncture the primer. It merely dents it.

**WmRMeyers** · Sep 17, 2022, 12:07 PM

A tool is a device for manipulating energy. A weapon is a device for manipulating energy. The difference between a tool and a weapon is in the mind of the user. Claw hammers (among many other types) are designed and intended by their designer for use as a tool. They still get used as murder weapons frequently enough. There have been times in history where there were hammers designed for war in common use, as well. I used to do medieval recreation, in steel & leather armour, with padded rattan swords, and certain types of pole arms. War hammers were not allowed as they concentrate too much force, such that even a rattan war hammer could be deadly. It's bad form to kill your playmates.

Bill

**BuffaloJohn** · Sep 18, 2022, 11:23 AM

Thanks Bill!

We tell people taking firearms training that the difference between a tool and a weapon is between their ears.

**Pa1963** · Sep 28, 2022, 03:11 PM

The oddest thing to me was that every country used them, and that even enemy countries paid licensing fees to Vickers.

**WmRMeyers** · Sep 28, 2022, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by BuffaloJohn

Thanks Bill!

We tell people taking firearms training that the difference between a tool and a weapon is between their ears.

True that. There are no dangerous weapons. Only dangerous people. A person who knows how to use their body, or a weapon, and is not afraid to die, can take out a person with a weapon who is not so prepared.

**redbaron1917** · Sep 28, 2022, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Pa1963

The oddest thing to me was that every country used them, and that even enemy countries paid licensing fees to Vickers.

Actually, the patent was by Hiram Maxim. The US did not want to purchase the rights. They believed the Gatling gun was enough at the time. The Russians, Germans and English did purchase manufacturing rights from Sir Hiram Maxim. It was not a Vickers license.