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    What are they doing here? It looks like the shoe is meant to slow or stop the car. But then it drops off at the de-rail. But why didn't the first truck de-rail??
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    I don't think they are changing tracks. Now I think this is a classification hump yard. Cars are pushed over a small hump or hill to roll down to a new siding. If a string of cars is going too fast a Switchman will put a skate in front of a wheel. Then the odd track is a spot to spit the skate out. Notice at the end there is another skate on top of a section of tie. Usually there are braking pads that close on the outside edges of the wheels that the Hump Operator (or the computer) controls to slow cars.

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    What is the point of what they are doing here? Why that strange joint in the rail?

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    There is another track parallel to the track its on. The shoe slides along with the wheel until the shoe slides off and the wheel continues on to the new track. It's difficult to see but they are changing tracks.

    Train track change up close - GIF-new-track.png
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    This does not look like a set of points that normally change trains direction from one track to another. I do see that it pushes the wheel over, but as both tracks are a single track why not have a normal but joint? Maybe we're just not seeing enough of the bigger picture hence difficult to comprehend the logic.

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    Hi Gang:

    Check Wikipedia to understand what is happening: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classification_yard

    The answer is in paragraph #2 of the "Hump" section.

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    Thanks for the great link, Carl. Your reference to the hump yard indicates the skate is being used as a brake or retarder which may not be the case here. The pictures clearly show the skate is moving the wheel over from one track to the other. One track is shiny and used and the other appears to be rusty. But there are certainly questions of what is actually going on. The tracks are inline with each other, yet one has weeds and appears unused and the other appears well maintained. I guess its a siding (resting spot in the classification system) that cars never quite get too.

    Skate is engaged and wheel is fully on whole width of track.
    Train track change up close - GIF-slider-4.png

    Skate engaged and wheel is starting to move to the side. Notice the red lines show the wheel displacement sideways. About 1/2 of the rail width.
    Train track change up close - GIF-slider-3.png

    Skate engaged and wheel moved to the right, almost completely off of the track.
    Train track change up close - GIF-slider-2.png

    Skate has just dropped off (see the shiny part) and the wheel has transferred over and is fully on, i.e., inline with the new track.
    Train track change up close - GIF-slider-1.png

    Thanks for the reference link. It was interesting.
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    The red circles show the difference between the main, shinny track and the rusty dormant track. The short piece of guide-track ("X") is expected to be rusty as wheels do not ride on top of it. This pic shows the alternate track is rusty. Clearly two different tracks.


    Train track change up close - GIF-slider-0.png
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    HI:
    The track with a red "X" is a guard rail, and is never ridden on. It isn't connected to any rails at either end. This area is an escape for the Skate. If you look before and after this area there are only the normal two rails, left and right. If this were a turnout there would be four rails at the end. If the skate were forcing a change wouldn't they need a skate at each truck? That would be a lot of labor.
    I wonder where this is filmed? The end of the truck bearings doesn't look like the USA style roller bearing package. That might be why they are using a labor intencive method rather that computer driven phenumatic retarders.
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    Agree, the skate is not moving the wheel sideways. Watch in slo-mo if you can. That tapered, pointy end of the next rail is positioned right where the skate slides off. The flange of the wheel locates (or is guided) onto the pointy rail and that transitions the wheel over to be fully on the new rail. As you suggested the skate may be used as a retarder and only one is needed.

    Train track change up close - GIF-screenshot-2024-05-06-000058.png



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