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    Quote Originally Posted by Toolmaker51 View Post
    Contractors make things so difficult, like keeping schedules, sticking to job quotes. . .DIY is the way to go.
    Well that was 9 minutes of entertainment. Oh you actually thought I would sit through an obvious spoof in regular time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toolmaker51 View Post
    In a roundabout [sort of slant drilling into a rabbit hole] search, I found a comment on this youtube video. Appears 'we' are on the same page.
    But this video will be enjoyed by any who feel "How It's Made" hardly tells the story. It's 29 minutes of cast iron porn.



    BTW, the best comment is "Who needs industry when you can have call centres!" closely illustrates observations in a large percentage of responses to the video. The lamentations sound particularly British.
    Pleases me no end; believing a community exists that Quality, good Design, carefully specified Materials, and proper Fitting justify Cost; which show in subsequent reselling, willingly pay extra for the honor.
    Woa I need a whole pack of cigarettes after watching that video.

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    OK bit late in the conversation but with reference to #245 from Toolmaker51 on the Dirty Jobs dude.
    In the clip he made a comment regarding Safety First.
    I had a very nasty experience the other day which left me reeling with anger and spite for the HSE.
    I was putting on a pair of work gloves and got a metal spelk in my hand from the inside of the glove, had i decided not to wear safety gear i would not have injured myself. Thanks to the clip i have now decided to study the wisdom of Aristotle and Plato etc. Safety third makes a lot of sense to me.

    Cholchester Lathe clip.
    chap casting lathe parts with molten metal - No gloves
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    MeJasonT, we conversed frequently, being clearly of like mind. I doubt Mike Rowe's show aired in Europe; but he is all over youtube. He can expound virtue of industry just as quickly jump into muck; and respect those equally. There's really nothing like him. His background is so varied, he can seemingly present facets of 100's of topics without notice. Sure, televised material is edited, but he does the same thing live.
    Best thing about Mr. Rowe, is what we do not like; he won't participate in presidential elections. What a shame. THAT would be a candidate.

    My guess on 'spelk' was off. I like to investigate terms, this being HMT.net we [in the middle] are bombarded on 4 sides by all kinds of language, sayings and dialect. I enjoy it guys, keep it coming! This time a webpage detailed the change in English across Britain. quick paste of result;
    Shiver – Once common in Norfolk and Lincolnshire but now replaced with splinter

    Sliver – Used in Sussex, Cambridgeshire and Kent but now replaced with splinter

    Speel – A regional word used for splinter found Lancashire and Carlisle but now no longer used

    Spell – The middle English for splinter, it was still being used across the North of England in the 1950s but has now vanished

    Spile – Used instead of splinter in Blackburn and Bolton but now replaced

    Spill – Seen in just a few places on the welsh border in the 1950s but now totally vanished

    Spool – Used by people in Huddersfield in the 1950s but now replaced by spliter
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    Rather than to further hijack another thread I think this post is more fitting here.
    It is a story of my inflamed gallbladder when I was about 19 years old. I was stationed at the 52nd MP Battalion at FT. Sam Houston. I was working in the Motor Pool under the guise of being a mechanic. Well the word mechanic was probably true. I had even done and early reenlistment to get the assignment. Mostly because I had grown weary of constantly attending one advanced training course after another and wanted a break. I felt that nearly 2 solid years of continuous never ending training courses was enough.
    Things were going along smoothly in the motor pool we had only 1 tactical vehicle several sedans 3 motorcycles and of course the Provost Marshal a bird col. had his personal helicopter and early Korean war vintage bell 47D1 Which hadn't been flown in 10 years, but that would be another story.
    One night while on night dispatch duty I suddenly was struck with a severe stomach pain or so I thought. I called the PMO and requested a patrol to swing by the motor pool. By the time a unit arrived I was doubled up on the floor in pain. One of them helped me to the sedan while the other stayed at the motor pool until a relief dispatcher could arrive. Code to Brook Army Medical center emergency room took less than 2 minutes, but the pain was subsiding by the time we arrived so I walked in on my own and the Staff sgt left to resume his patrol. Short story long, long story short I spent the night there under observation and endured an endless amount of testing and prodding needles stuck in my arms supplied body fluids under went x rays with only moderate regard for possible sterility protection must have been enough 2nd child born 3 years later.
    Next morning released, placed on a bland potato soup type diet. On the mostly liquid diet for a week taking their meds I think were nothing but placebo but no proof. Pain not going away just barely tolerable enough to function in a highly limited duty level. Working days at the motor pool since the motor sgt and a couple others were there so not working alone incase another spasm. A call comes in from the PMO MTR sgt. tells me to report to the Provost Marshal post haste, no explanation. GO in and report as ordered the Col says you can drop that Specialist four crap Mister S. you forget I've seen your 201. This just arrived, tapping a folder on his desk, before I send it to the company commander I wanted to know if you are up for what is inside given your gall bladder incident last week. Oh be at ease and have a seat.
    I'm up for it Sir.
    How do you know you don't even know what is in the folder?
    Unless I miss my guess it will be orders to some special TDY training course as per usual with the plans the Army has for me for what ever reason.
    OK so you are suddenly clairvoyant are you?
    No Sir just simple deduction What else would a folder specifically addressed to me be doing on your desk and not on the company commander's desk be about, if it weren't something that requires your recommendation as well as approval before it is forwarded to the company clerk or the 1st sgt.
    Just then he got a phone call and had to dismiss me saying he would forward the folder to the company clerk for me to get my kit in order and pack my gear.
    I Still didn't know what was in the folder or where I was being sent but I knew where ever it was I didn't need a pain in the lower gut stopping me so I rode the Motorcycle back to the motor pool but stopped along the way where a gut truck was selling snacks I bought a dozen jalapeno peppers a bag of chips and a canned coke. KILL or Cure was my thinking.
    I've never had another pain or spasm in my abdomen in all of these years and absolutely consider the hotter the pepper the more it does for your body to prevent or possibly even cure gastrointestinal problems. I went TDY about 2 weeks later for 3 months To Aberdeen Proving grounds Md. and about a year later was sent to Germany where I remained for over 3 years but before going there I must have gone TDY 2 dozen times sometimes as few as 3 days some times a couple of weeks. all of these were very long flights of 6 to 14 hours once over 18 hours but we won't disclose those destinations publicly.
    The above story is true only the wording of the conversations may have altered over the years
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toolmaker51 View Post
    As some know, I've been on the job market a few weeks. Indiscriminate recruiters I call pirates, completely dissolve well-edited resumes, and pilfer contact info. I drilled straight into a supervisor at just such an agency in NY Friday afternoon; imagine her surprise 'hot-stamp operator' wasn't a position of interest. Another nicomguano without any kind of manufacturing vocabulary.........to her 'machine' & 'machines' were all the same thing, verb, noun, adverb or adjective. Along with her comprehension issues, this isn't exactly a job rife with skills; just 'Abilities'.
    Here's a copy/ paste of the main requisite skills. It reads OK except for one glaring what-the-he**?
    "Skills;
    Ability to plan work and select proper tools • Ability to compare and accurately determine difference in size, shape, and form of objects • Ability to apply shop mathematics to solve problems • Ability to set-up machines • Ability to correctly and safely use hand tools (both manual and pneumatic) • Ability to read a tape measure in metric and empirical standards • Ability to read effectively from a paper copy • Ability to work within precise limits and/or standards of accuracy • Ability to multi-task • Ability to work well with others • Ability to work in a fast paced environment • Ability to communicate effectively • Ability to follow and understand directions
    ."

    This was supplied to her by another department. What do extra layers cost that should take one? Discovered root to less unemployment; more doing less.
    Those skills were asked of "Cemetery attendants" and grave digger had also needed ability to use a post hole shovel and with C class (MR or HR) truck licence an advantage and open excavator licence also an advantage. LOL

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    Take a poll. Work some numbers. Create any result desired [or paid for];

    or expose the whole mess!

    as seen by Todd Snider/ Jenni Finlay

    Statistician's Blues


    They say 3 percent of the people use 5 to 6 percent of their brain
    97 percent use 3 percent and the rest goes down the drain
    I'll never know which one I am but I'll bet you my last dime
    99 percent think we're 3 percent 100 percent of the time.

    64 percent of all the world's statistics are made up right there on the spot
    82.4 percent of people believe 'em whether they're accurate statistics or not
    I don't know what you believe but I do know there's no doubt
    I need another double shot of something 90 proof, I got too much to think about.

    Too much to think about
    Too much to figure out
    Stuck between hope and doubt
    It's too much to think about.

    They say 92 percent of everything you learned in school was just ******** you'll never need
    84 percent of everything you got you bought to satisfy your greed
    Because 90 percent of the world's population links possessions to success
    Even though 80 percent of the wealthiest 1 percent of the population drinks to an alarming excess
    More money, more stress.

    It's too much to think about
    Too much to figure out
    Stuck between hope and doubt
    It's too much to think about, pick it now.

    84 percent of all statisticians truly hate their jobs
    They say the average bank robber lives within say about 20 miles of the bank that he robs
    There's this little bank not far from here I've been watching now a while
    Lately all I can think abouts how bad I wanna go out in style.

    And it's too much to think about
    It's too much to figure out
    Stuck between hope and doubt
    It's too much to think about, that's right
    It's too much to think about, amen
    It's too much to think about, mm-mm.


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    The perfect world.
    At 20 you know everything and really do.
    At 30 you have everything and really do
    At 40 you've done everything and actually have.
    At 50 you've finally figured out you really didn't know everything at 20
    At 60 you've paid off everything you had at 30
    At 70 you wonder why you did everything in the first place
    At 80 you reminisce at all you knew all the things you had and everything you have done
    At 90 you wonder if you ever knew anything had anything or did anything
    At 100 none of it matters anymore you can't remember anything you don't have anything and you can't do anything someone does all of that for you and you wonder what 110 will be like
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    What industry can accomplish, when the pressure is on. Comittment helps.

    I've stolen my previous offer about the Colchester Lathe Plant.
    This time it's how every 55 minutes, over a million components exit the Ford Willow Run Plant as a Consolidated-Vultee B-24 Liberator. So most of the post remains true. And as I continue wandering for such treasures, they'll find their way here.
    Quote Originally Posted by Toolmaker51 View Post
    In a roundabout [sort of slant drilling into a rabbit hole] search, I found a comment on this youtube video. Appears 'we' are on the same page.
    But this video will be enjoyed by any who feel "How It's Made" hardly tells the story. It's 33 minutes of aluminum porn.
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    Awful damn sure....
    Not any document I've written contained 'Accounts Receivable', 'Payable', let alone references to holding other rubber stamp wielding occupations. So when a "HR Manager" initiates a conversation to fill such a position, my benevolent demeanor switches to All Hands: General Quarters!

    Typical, Saturday 0941, new junk mail. Contacts redacted for sake of I'm not sure why, formatting reduced to acceptable size.
    Stand By to Repel Boarders!

    From: Kacper Xxx Xxxxx <xxxxx@uwo.ca>
    Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2019 9:53 AM
    To: 'AAL'
    Cc: info@msn.com
    Subject: RED
    Can you handle this position account receivables agent for Lee Metal Group, its customers/client in Canada or USA.
    Regards,
    HR Manager


    re: RED [lol it's FRED]

    You, an HR Manager?
    Really? Or just bought a graduate certificate from Dollar General, maybe .99¢ Store...?

    My resume contains absolutely nothing that predicates such would be of interest. Feeble probes indicate skills limited to stealing contact information, definitely not screening viable candidates.
    Certainly not effective interpretation of the sort of documents mentioned above.
    [Toolmaker51]

    There for quite awhile, I'd get propositions to proofread and multiply impact of my resume, with a $300+ fee of course. Always the same pitch, "Recruiters and HR professionals only give resumes attention a matter of seconds" before decision to retain or trash.
    That suits me fine. Those who know what they are looking at have told me, it's the best resume they've ever read. No hype or wordiness, only details that can be confirmed. Liked visualizing putting 300 in the bank every time I heard that.
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