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    Pantograph

    In the dark days before computers, if you wanted to rescale a drawing you had to do it by hand. For small drawings or working from a prototype, a set of proportional dividers were useful. The first photo shows a commercial pair of these neat tools.

    Basically they are a double-ended set of dividers with a pivot point that is movable. By setting the pivot in the right location you can set the ratio between the openings of the two ends of the dividers. The second photo shows detail of the pivot mechanism and the ratio scales engraved on the arms of the tool.





    This tool is still made and sold. You can buy one from MicroMark for a staggering $95.00 ...

    https://www.micromark.com/Proportional-Divider

    (If you want to buy one, search for a better price; MicroMark is notoriously overpriced.)

    They're a great tool but using one to rescale an entire drawing can be very tedious. The tool for that job is the pantograph.

    One of the reasons we have shops is so we can build the toys we couldn't afford when we were kids. As soon as I got some tools capable of working metal I set out to build a pantograph as a good way to teach me how to use those tools. The tool that resulted looks like this...



    The arms are 21" long and made of 3/4 x 1/8" aluminum to keep the weight low. A variety of pivot holes allows the unit to be set to ratios between 1.25:1 to 10:1, roughly the same ratios the proportional dividers can manage.

    This picture...



    shows the working end of the tool. On the left is the hold-down which is clamped to the work table while the tool is in use. Attached in the middle to two of the arms is the tracer point with which one traces lines in the source drawing. On the right arm is fixed the pencil lead holder that marks the scaled drawing. If you build one, a better choice for the marker is a felt-tip pen since the pencil can glide and not leave a clear mark on occasion. A weight on the right arm can overcome that but the felt-tip is a better solution. The tracer point and pencil lead holders were salvaged from an old set of drafting instruments.

    The junction of the two central arms at the other end of the tool has a gliding foot that rides on the worktable...



    This foot is needed to keep the arms from twisting and binding when the tool is in use.

    All in all, it was a good learning project for a young metalworker and, once done, was actually used in anger on a few occasions to rescale drawings. Of course, today it's as outmoded as a drafting machine but I still hang on to it just to confuse my heirs when they encounter it while throwing out all the rest of the stuff in the shop.

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    One of the reasons we have shops is so we can build the toys we couldn't afford when we were kids. As soon as I got some tools capable of working metal I set out to build a pantograph as a good way to teach me how to use those tools.
    Nice write up, pics and build.

    and enjoyed the last paragraph...so true.

    All in all, it was a good learning project for a young metalworker and, once done, was actually used in anger on a few occasions to rescale drawings. Of course, today it's as outmoded as a drafting machine but I still hang on to it just to confuse my heirs when they encounter it while throwing out all the rest of the stuff in the shop.
    Told my son awhile back, in the end take what you want and sell or toss the rest and finished with; "When the ship lifts, all debts are paid, No Regrets"...Robert Heinlein.

    Thanks Marv.

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    Love the pantograph and it has enough holes to come up with any ratio.
    I still have my drafting table, my wife wants me to get rid of it because I do not use it anymore.
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    Mine is very similar to Marv's A little smaller 2 arms @ 18" 2 @ 20 1/2 by 1/8" aluminum Just about everything else could be taken right out of his eloquent description of how to use it. I lightly stamped letters next to the holes to assist me in determining which hole I wanted from a chart that I made up and is now long gone. Can't remember the last time I used mine.
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    Like I said I can't remember the last time I used mine but if you can get 1 for that price the 1 time you really need it it will be well worth the cost even if you are only transposing at a 1 to 1 ratio using it on an existing part to lay out another one it still has its uses today
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    I couldn't find my notes describing how to calculate the spacing of the holes on the arms of the pantograph so I had to rethink the problem. (That doesn't bother me; frequently, on the second go-around, you'll see simplifications you missed the first time.) I decided to document the process here. That way someone who wants to build one can do it himself and I'll be able to find the derivation the next time I need it. :-)




    The attached diagram shows a pantograph set up for a roughly three to one enlargement. The notation is as follows:

    F = Fixed point
    T = Tracer point
    M = Marker point
    S = Slider point
    P, Q = Pivot points whose locations we wish to calculate

    In the computations, we'll let:

    R = pantograph Ratio

    If R>1, the drawing traced will be enlarged, if R<1 the final drawing will be smaller. In the diagram, R is approximately 3, so a three to one enlargement. The ratio allows us to relate FT and TM thusly...

    FM = R * FT
    TM = FM - FT = FT * (R - 1)

    Whatever, the spacings of the pivot hole P are, they must remain constant as the angle FPT changes; as we trace, we don't move pivot points around as that angle changes. Therefore, if we can calculate them for FPT = a right angle, we'll know them for all angles. Thus, for convenience, the diagram is drawn with FPT as a right angle.

    Now, FPT = 90, then SPT = 90 and, since PSQT is a parallelogram (it must be for the pantograph to work) , all its interior angles are right angles.

    By design, the length of the pantograph arms are equal so FS = SM. This implies that the angles SFM and SMF are equal. Since FSM = 90, it follows that FSM = 45 = FTP and FP = PT.

    Applying Pythagoras to the FPT triangle we now have:

    FP^2 + PT^2 = FT^2

    but FP = PT so:

    2 * FP^2 = FT^2

    or:

    FP = FT/sqrt(2).

    and

    PS = FS - FP = TQ

    So, once you've picked a convenient length for FT based on your maximum value of R and the chosen stick length, FS, you can find FP from FT/sqrt(2) and PS from the latter equation.

    Isn't geometry wonderful?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mklotz View Post
    Isn't geometry wonderful?
    Of all the mathematical techniques, geometry is my true friend, probably from it's visualization of solutions. I'm no wizard...so any process that helps solve itself is better than just useful.
    That it's [mathematics in general] been digitized is more counterproductive than teaching methods of the 60-70's where theory over-rode practical application. I applaud those retaining manual instruments; developing patterns this way is elemental, therefore stimulating. Sketching, bend allowances, webs, fillets and radii, etc become aesthetic considerations, not mere functional requirements.
    If I ever connect with CAD ware, maybe the integration will be smoothed.
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    Thanks mklotz! We've added your Pantograph to our Measuring and Marking category,
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    Congratulations mklotz - your Pantograph is the Homemade Tool of the Week!

    This was yet another excellent week around here, with some good tools from both oldtimers and newcomers alike.

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    mklotz - we've added your tool entry to our All Homemade Tool of the Week winners post. And, you'll be receiving a $25 online gift card, in your choice of Amazon, PayPal, or bitcoin. Please PM me your current email address and gift card choice and I'll get it sent over right away.

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    Congratulation on Tool of the Week
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