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    Drilling Accurate Holes in Thin Sheet Metal With Twist Drills

    Drilling thin sheet metal with regular drill bits can be hazardous and even if you are able to get the drill bit to cut through, the hole will often be oversize, triangular or pentagonal in shape and there will be snaggy burrs all around the edge. The big danger is that the sheet metal will try to lift off the drill table and run up the flutes and when it reaches the chuck it can spin out of control and cut your hands to ribbons.
    Now, you can use a step drill and they are specifically designed for sheet metal and thin stock but what do you do if you want a hole that is a specific and non standard size, like a letter drill or number drill size.
    The trick is to trap a couple of folds of soft cloth like cotton, or some other non synthetic cloth (not nylon) between the workpiece and the tip of the drill. Then just drill through the stock as you would normally. The cloth will keep the stock pushed down against the drill table and as the cut progresses, the cloth will pack into the flutes of the drill bit and keep it centred as the cutting edges break through.
    This is not my idea. I first read about it in the Model Engineer Magazine many years ago but it works and it's simple.
    Regards,
    Preso
    Check out the video for some examples of how well it works.

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    Very nice idea. I do like it. Thanks. Are you using a brad pointed drill ?

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    No, the beauty of this technique is that you can just use a regular twist drill. There is not need to modify the drill bits that you already have.
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    Thank you for teaching this to us.(Me). I am 60 years old and could have used this technic 53 years ago when I started building things. It is a blessing to learn something new so helpful in the shop. Thank you! Doug

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    Here's hoping the wife doesn't find out what happened to her cardigan...

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    Thank you for sharing. This is a good technique if you're in a pinch, however, I would not do this on a regular basis. Using a sheet metal punch is much safer and no risk of a very sharp-edged piece spinning.

    I picked up a used Pexto no. 5 punch for $25 (I think) earlier this year. It's from the late 1930s. Still work fantastic. A perfectly punched hole every time in sheet metal. New these punches are $80.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonlegrand1 View Post
    Thank you for sharing. This is a good technique if you're in a pinch, however, I would not do this on a regular basis. Using a sheet metal punch is much safer and no risk of a very sharp-edged piece spinning.

    I picked up a used Pexto no. 5 punch for $25 (I think) earlier this year. It's from the late 1930s. Still work fantastic. A perfectly punched hole every time in sheet metal. New these punches are $80.

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    I've got a couple of those punches, though one of mine is a Whitney-Roper, and the other a cheap copy, and if you only need holes near the edge of your sheet metal, they are very nice. Unfortunately, they're useless more than an inch or so from the edge of the metal. Great tools within their envelope, even the import, but not a replacement for the drill press. I was using them to put rivet holes in bits of metal that were going to be armour for medieval recreationists. Haven't done that in a few decades, but still have them. Also three different sizes of drill press. Hi! My name is Bill, and I'm a toolohaulic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Presling View Post
    Drilling thin sheet metal with regular drill bits can be hazardous and even if you are able to get the drill bit to cut through, the hole will often be oversize, triangular or pentagonal in shape and there will be snaggy burrs all around the edge. The big danger is that the sheet metal will try to lift off the drill table and run up the flutes and when it reaches the chuck it can spin out of control and cut your hands to ribbons.
    Now, you can use a step drill and they are specifically designed for sheet metal and thin stock but what do you do if you want a hole that is a specific and non standard size, like a letter drill or number drill size.
    The trick is to trap a couple of folds of soft cloth like cotton, or some other non synthetic cloth (not nylon) between the workpiece and the tip of the drill. Then just drill through the stock as you would normally. The cloth will keep the stock pushed down against the drill table and as the cut progresses, the cloth will pack into the flutes of the drill bit and keep it centred as the cutting edges break through.
    This is not my idea. I first read about it in the Model Engineer Magazine many years ago but it works and it's simple.
    Regards,
    Preso
    Check out the video for some examples of how well it works.
    Sorry, but I just can not understand for the life of me why I see so many people not take the extra time to secure the work piece to the table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charles scozzari View Post
    Sorry, but I just can not understand for the life of me why I see so many people not take the extra time to secure the work piece to the table.
    I have to loudly agree. Freehand drilling in small parts is difficult and dangerous at best. Sheet metal is extra dangerous and difficult to hold securely in the average drill press vise. What's needed is a finger plate. The term is inherited from the British where the form has a single "finger" clamp to secure small parts. My version...

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    provides a table to which multiple clamps of differing types can be attached to secure almost any odd shape. Most important is the fact that the plate has projections on the bottom that allow it to be clamped securely in the drill press vise once the part has been secured to the top of the plate with suitable clamps.
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