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    Very impressive. Thanks for not asking me to pick a winner.

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    China graduated 4.7 million engineers in 2018. That's 8 times more than the US, roughly the population of Kentucky.

    We invested in foreign wars and they invested in building industry. I fear the repercussions of that decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Greene View Post
    China graduated 4.7 million engineers in 2018. That's 8 times more than the US, roughly the population of Kentucky.

    We invested in foreign wars and they invested in building industry. I fear the repercussions of that decision.
    Yes, but the USA has the lock on graduates with degrees in:

    social ecology
    equine kinesiology
    Elizabethan literature
    (name your favorite minority) studies
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    When my daughter graduated (in economics) from UC Irvine, I noticed at the graduation ceremony that a very large number of students were getting degrees in social ecology. I asked my daughter what "social ecology" was. Her response was fascinating...

    Nobody knows. It's what the jocks and dummies take.

    Even this excerpt from the UCI page has the ring of a mission statement written to hide whatever is really happening...



    https://socialecology.uci.edu/core/u...aduate-program

    The BA in Social Ecology prepares students for careers in a wide variety of occupations. The training is explicitly interdisciplinary, providing a broad perspective that views ecological systems in a holistic fashion. Our students have a wide variety of interests and our alumni have gone on to a wide variety of careers.

    I especially like "explicitly interdisciplinary, providing a broad perspective that views ecological systems in a holistic fashion". If your BS meter doesn't peg on that one you should check the batteries.
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    I thought you were joking about social ecology being real!

    I perceive it as the bursting of the educational bubble. There was a time when A College Degree, in most anything, was indeed useful for upward mobility. Once universities figured that out, then, because they're businesses, they started selling degrees for anything, to anyone who could buy one. Now we have a glut of college graduates who not only got something mostly useless, but are now in debt, and likely to spend their lives as a net economic loss for society.

    The Chinese have a word for this type of American: Baizuo.

    TBF, if you're intelligent and hard-working, and you indeed endeavor to study medieval poetry or some such, that's fine. But, that should be maybe 1 out of 1 million people, which would give us about 325 medieval poetry scholars in America. That's perfectly reasonable for a healthy society.

    It will be interesting to see what happens when China's development is no longer fueled by picking the lowest-hanging industrial fruit, AND when Chinese citizens increasingly clamor for civil rights.



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