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    I've used it for a few other uses as well - some of them well off the beaten track!

    As a locksmith, I have a key casting kit, lets me take an impression of the key to form a mould and make a exact copy of said key! Right out of the CIA playbook, eh?

    I've also cast nuts and bolts from it, using two-part silicone to make a mould, making fasteners that would predictably fail at certain temps. Worked great!

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    Have heard of using it to mould around high precision parts as a sacrificial clamping surface so as to not cause damage from clamping. My old boss used some to replicate a British car club(?) Mediation for his Austin 10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suther51 View Post
    Have heard of using it to mould around high precision parts as a sacrificial clamping surface so as to not cause damage from clamping. My old boss used some to replicate a British car club(?) Mediation for his Austin 10.
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    Yes, I've used it for clamping myself. It's especially useful for clamping castings with no reference surface so the initial surface can be machined

    "Mediation"? Should that be medallion?
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    Yes, sorry, a jumble of electrons always trying to out-guess the human.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suther51 View Post
    Yes, sorry, a jumble of electrons always trying to out-guess the human.
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    Until auto-correctors become fully conscious to the point of understanding the material to which they are applied, they are perfectly useless. There is no electronic substitute for proof-reading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mklotz View Post
    Until auto-correctors become fully conscious to the point of understanding the material to which they are applied, they are perfectly useless. There is no electronic substitute for proof-reading.
    I run into auto-correct so frequently, no matter how much I add to my dictionary. Real question is how did these products get made ignorant of processes guaranteed of use to produce them?
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    I double clicked in error. Pretty sure nobody want to read my stuff twice. Instead, how was your day?
    We had machinery movers in shop today, 6 of them for a three man job...found work away from where they were. They braced horizontal mill by wood blocks under the sliding ram to lift. I noticed fork blades seemed a little too far apart, right before the main 8" x 8" splintered, dropping the mill about a foot. Bad enough but first offense, they hadn't blocked the knee to unload the elevating screw.
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    Thanks Toolmaker51 for your info on your sulfur/graphite mix. Never heard of that one. First time I ever used a Cerro product; I accidentally used Cerrobend instead of Cerrosafe to do a chamber cast on a rifle. BAD IDEA! It stuck, and I had to knock it out with a cleaning rod and a wooden dowell. I didn't think I would ever get it out. They are good products for the correct applications. I understand that there is a product now that is a plastic resin of some sort for bending thin wall tubing that is much cheaper than Cerrobend. They also have a product called Cerrolow That is an alloy of Indium that melts at 117 degrees f. Interestingly enough, Indium is also the metal that "screams" under stress (bending).

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    One supplier of resin mixtures is "Flex-Bar", well known for their inspection tools.
    WARNING. Have spouse retain your debit card before entering their site IYKWIM. A ponderous mass of wondrous products. With an intro byline of Unique Inspection, Measurement & Machine Safety Systems , they say 'Unique' ain't whistlin Dixie.

    Unique Inspection, Measurement & Machine Safety Systems | Flexbar Machine Corporation - Flexbar

    Be it known I rarely mention corporations by name or expound their virtues; when I do, experience says OK.
    Never been offered compensation. Of course, those I respect most are long out of business.....

    I've not bent much tubing without a mandrel or bending apparatus. But fine sand sealed in thin wall worked not so bad.
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    Sulphur-Carbon casting recipe from NBS Handbook 1934

    Melting point of sulphur is (as you all already know):
    115 °C or 240 °F

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