Thanks for sharing the slides, Forrest. After looking at these for awhile, pondering and a bit of research, I do think the last slide has some interesting values as you pointed out. Particularly the thread torque to peak tension and the results of the Zinc Flake example was surprising to me. However, we would likely assume these test were done on their fasteners (with no mention of ASTM standards used in manufacture or OA length {ratio of thread to shank length}) other than Grade 5 Hex Cap, Gr2 full nut and yellow zinc washer; Nor did it state where the single washer was located (head or nut), and more curious to me was how the friction of 9050lbs was calculated or measured, and what the numbers in the 3 columns on the left (Thread, head, ref.) mean. The K-Factors seemed appropriate to ASTM standards, and the Peak ON torque (Head) seemed appropriate to me, but must we assume all these values were to achieve a Target Clamp Load of 9791 lbs. from slide 2?
Slide 2 showing their test setup, definitely looks legit and calibrated in a lab. Chart 1 though, is a bit crayon for me as it is only a resultant pie chart from, I assume a spreadsheet, that represents a "Clamp Load-Vs_Applied Torque" but gives statistics for friction, which appear to be within the ball park based on this White Paper by Ralph S. Shoberg, P.E., Director of Technology, PCB Load & Torque, Inc. The good (pertinent) stuff starts at the bottom of page 4. His other paper "Tightening Strategies for Bolted Joints" is also of interest in the discussion where he details all the complex variables, proper test procedures and outlines methodology and math for Torque-Angle Signature Analysis as shown in your slide 3 in the 2 columns next to peak tension giving insight to those numbers in the "Final Angle (deg)" column.
Sorry but I'm kind of a stickler on test methodology, Statistic and Data. My credo is/has been, Discernment in all things. Not to say I don't Jump to Incorrect assumptions sometimes, but I try...consciously.
Although this discussion rises above the average HMT/shop it does give some insights to properly choosing and applying fasteners to what ever we design or build. It says volumes to things to think about, like; if, where, and what washers are used, clearance hole sizes, material finish, grade, thread pitch, etc. and the all important question...does it really need to hold the planet together and will it hurt someone if it fails? Thankfully engineers, manufacturers, and Standards, makes it relatively simple to choose, get and use fasteners in our projects at home or professionally for every day use and the opportunities to push the boundaries of technology because we all have added to the advancements.
Thanks Jon for lighting the candle and Forrest the discussion, hopefully our members find some good value and insight to it.
I watched AVE's Vid when he first did it but will need to watch it again for any further comment, if any. Thanks TSiArt for bringing it forward here!
PJ
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